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The Attorney General
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Posted - 2013.09.19 03:15:00 -
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Stop arguing with Checkmate, he is just a scrub who wants others to feel as impotent as he does.
He has no concepts of balance, and especially no idea of what is involved in tanking. Just let him be his scrubby self, and pretend he doesn't exist.
He has no value, and his opinions are even dumber than he is.
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.09.19 03:40:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:
Don't you have some Dev response threads to say they should be developing **** better?
You have such a high concept of balancing, that you get angry at CCP for holding back a rework of vehicles to make a better balancing patch.
Aren't you satisfied with knowing you're a hypocrite, instead of making posts that explain it so vividly?
But then again, anyone else having an opinion contrary to yours is a mistake in itself.
You think heavies are UP. So yeah, you are not the sharpest tool in the shed. But you are a tool.
Thumbs up special guy! |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.09.19 03:42:00 -
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I love how checkmate thinks there would be 12 v 12 tanks, he has seemingly forgotten about the vehicle limit.
Oh wait, he has never been tanking. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.09.19 03:55:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:The Attorney General wrote:I love how checkmate thinks there would be 12 v 12 tanks, he has seemingly forgotten about the vehicle limit.
Oh wait, he has never been tanking. I love how the ret@rded General says im to be ignored yet reads and enjoys my every post. Like i give a f*** what you think. Im waiting for Void to reply.Even if i think hes demented and WRONG, he defends what he sees correct,gives input and that makes him valuable to the community. People thinking they are the smartass hot internet lol troll winners , are just sad. Bro, you are sad
Clearly, you have never taken the time to read my feedback in tanker threads, because I actually think Void wants to make tanks OP. I call for a much more rational approach to vehicle balancing than he does. I fully understand his position, but do not agree with the degree.
Out of most of the upper tier of tankers, I find myself consistently being the person arguing for no real buffs to tanks, just slight adjustments, especially with regards to shields v armor tanks.
But you would know none of these things because your sole intent is to try and rile people up. Your ridiculous statements and hilarious hyperbole is not arguing, nor is it in any way productive.
I have grown quite tired of those like you who seem to think that everything is just fine in the tank v infantry balance right now. Unlike most of you scrubs, I actually have a fully specced (16 million SP) out heavy with a prof 5 forge and proto grenades. So I know exactly how easy it is for AV to pop tanks like it is going out of style. I can consistently solo even the most stout of armor tanks.
So when I see posts about people not being able to kill tanks, I know they are either lying to prevent equilibrium from being reached, or they are just bad at what they do.
Can you say the same? Of course not. You speak only about one side of the argument, and from my experience as an AV troop, you clearly don't know what you are talking about. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.09.19 04:35:00 -
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Checkmate, you really need to learn how to quote properly. Your posts are both difficult to read, and even more difficult to respond to without making a proper mess.
I will try and dissect your post, but it will take some time because of your horrible formatting.
The numbers used refer to the bolded portions you provided in your reply to my post.
1. Non point. One does not need length to create a proper statement. In the words of GZA, "Make it brief son, half short and twice strong"
2. When I said I can consistently solo tankers, that means any tanker. Not weaklings, not scrubs, but actual tankers. No one cares about how fast we can blow up somas. Solo, in squad, doesn't matter. Because it is not difficult.
3. You would have no idea what I think is balanced, because you have never asked me. So your assumptions on my opinions of what is balanced are irrelevant. Could I be wrong? Of course. No one is infallible. But since I am not arguing for nerfs to AV aside from some slight modifications to swarms and AV nades, and since I don't want buffs to armor tanks, I would consider my approach quite rational.
4. You missed the point of my argument. I have both a 16 million SP AV troop AND a 16 million SP tanker. You do not. So when I say that I can speak as someone who has much experience on both sides of the fight, that is something you can not compare to. I have played both sides, and am quite aware of the limitations and restrictions both classes have. You make it seem like you are the only guy who ever runs solo, which is hilariously misinformed.
You don't know how I play, you don't know whom I play with, or when I do or do not run solo. So thinking that that in some way validates your argument is foolhardy and shameful as a debate tactic.
You can try and talk ****, but when I go and add you to my contacts, you better have some stats to back up that game you pretend to have. Because I don't care if you run solo, if you have some scrubby stats, I am going to get a real good laugh. |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
943
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Posted - 2013.09.19 06:21:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:
I already told you as a Heavy, I've suffered through hardships over a 6 month period.
Tell me how I'm wrong?
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Beyond the fact that opinions on the heavy are split by those who preferred the shield heavies(most people) or armor heavies(me). Most of the shield fatties were upset because they got forced into a roll much like how I already played as a heavy.
Stats wise, your HP is up, weapon damage is up, HMG range is down, turn speed is up, strafe speed is up. With the armor buffs, 1200 HP is easy.
Sure it sucks to have only one frame, but you are stretching to make comparisons to the degree of nerf tanks have taken.
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The Attorney General
ZionTCD
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Posted - 2013.09.19 22:12:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:True Adamance wrote: I went from long time Solo AV tank killer to a tanker. The sheer amount of fire power we take during the cause of the match is insane, it worse when one player can actually, on his own, constitute 2-3 players fire power in 3 AV grenades, which withing the grand scheme of things are weapons that don't make sense.
Why? is not balanced? The shotgun is a VERY powerful light weapon , capable of 1-2 HKOing any med frame. Nobody cries about it BECAUSE you need to GET CLOSE. Yet, TANKERS, with the ability to use good ACTIVE SCANNERS,have insane Armor rep abilities and 5000+ HP, COMPLAIN because an infantry man was suicidal enough to RUN TOWARDS atank ,and try to connect some AV nades. OF COURSE,you have been a powerful AV infantry player,but it seems to me that you are thinking your ''balance'' from a tanker point of view. There by, BIASED. Have you forgoten the lame SPEED on heavies. How everything KILLS you even MLT AR while being a heavy ? Have you forgotten the feeling of running towards an enemy tank to throw grenades and then, oops he saw me.Your dead.. Have you forgotten the TIME it takes to throw a swarm volley , and when infantry starts shooting at you the whole 3-4 seconds it takes for your character to react and acutally CHANGE weapons? When your AV nade decides to not home in on a tank and just falls dead on the floor? When you are Just about to kill a tank,but need to reload,and while you are at it the tank RUNS away or regenerated -++ his HP? ARE YOU FORGETTING THE FACT, that in the WHOLE game, there are only 4 weapons to actually damage a and 1 of them doesnt even work?
Again , i call BS on the ''SOLO AV Specialist'', im pretty sure, as every Zion i've ever met , you run in Squads most of the time and have even Stat Pad several times, SPECIALLY as a forge gunner. BUT, Putting aside the fact that most of the times you had a squad backing you up, you really cant remember any of those feelings? Anyhow, i think tankers (And of course you and Void echo) should stop asking for Nerfs on AV weaponry and wait to see what CCP brings us with the next vehicle balance update. Until then, we are just stuck in the same cycle....
Heavy in an LAV is very fast. Faster than a rail tanks turret traverse, and can almost outpace a blaster turret if they dare to get really close. But they don't need to, they just need to drive up, whip out three AV nades and then shoot the tank once with a decent forge, and bam, no more tank.
If you can't build a fat suit to withstand at least 6 hits from a blaster turret, then you don't know how to build a tank killer fit, and no wonder you are having so much trouble.
Why would you run directly at a tank when you can crash an LAV into him, obscuring your location and allowing you the time and opportunity to kill him with just your AV nades?
I don't know about swarms. I do know people who use them, and have played on a friends account with prof 3 swarms. Being able to mag dump in less than 6 seconds is just dumb. I mean it is great for swarm users, but putting out more damage than the forge is just stupid.
If your AV nade didn't home in, it is because you need to throw better. Simple really. They have a seek radius you know.
Why would you need to reload mid engagement? Hit them twice, reload, then go in for the kill. This stuff isn't rocket science, and I am amazed at how ignorant of tank fighting you seem to be.
Four weapons that can damage tanks?? You sir are not counting the creative options. Flux grenades and a Mass driver can pop shield tanks. I took out a soma with my Boundless once. So yes, there are some AV weapons, but instead of small arms fire being ineffective against armor, it actually works, which is just silly.
To top it all off, you try and call out Zion, but you are not even quoting me. You keep "playing for the win" and not getting it.
I tried to give you a chance to be something other than a complete idiot, but you have failed horribly on that front, and you still refuse to try and actually debate.
Back on the ignore list with you. |
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